I was reading a Pro-life/Pro-choice question on here, and everyone was like "its not a man's place to choose what a woman does with her body". But what about the man who really wants the baby, but the woman goes and has an abortion. How is that fair?
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It may not be fair but for now it is the law of the land. I doubt that it will ever be changed - at least not in my lifetime.
The father has no responsibility in the matter until a child is delivered via a live birth and he acknowledges paternity, so I don't see any fairness issue.
I hope someone with law experience can chime in on this one.
The father's responsiblity starts with creation and not with the birth.
No, I dont think it is fair that only the female has the say so. The father should have some rights to stop abortions, while he begins the process of obtaining legal custody of the child once it is born.
It is my understanding that the laws only favor the women.
Along the same line, a father does not have the authority to force a pregnant woman to have an abortion. Instead, she has the child without his approval, then sues for child support for a child she alone chose to have.
Its not, but life isnt fair and ultimately it is the womans choice because she is the one carrying the child. So until men can have babies they might as well get used to it.
There ain't a man in the world that wants the baby...
I think it is unfair also, the states want the money for child support. but if a woman wants to abort she can.
No, it MUST be the woman's choice. No one has the right to force a woman to give birth.
This is the basis of an argument I like to use. FIrst let me assure you that I am against abortion, and believe a man and woman are responsible for the child they create. However, using the logic of the pro-abortion or pro-choice-of-baby-killing, explain the following:
If a man gets a woman pregnant, she is allowed to get an abortion, because it is not a baby. She can either "choose" to abort it, or "choose" to allow her body to develop it into a baby.
If the woman "chooses" to allow her body to develop it into a baby, that means the man had nothing to do with it. It was her choice, and her body created the baby, since it was just a sperm that the man deposited.
How can they force a man to pay child support for a baby that he had nothing to do with? He did not "choose", nor did his body create the baby. At the very least, you can argue (with this broken pro-choice logic) that he only created a fetus, and it was the mother who 'chose' to create a baby.
Either disallow abortions, or disallow forced child support.
It's not fair at all. But people who are pro-abortion rights usually have distorted views on what is fair and not fair. It is just an ugly subject altogether - thus the name "pro-choice" instead of pro-abortion. They don't even want to call it what it really is.
Welcome to the Anglo culture young lady! It's only fair for the woman if she decides to tag the man for child support for 18 years. Her decisions bind the man's life for a lifetime. Thank you Queen Victoria once again.
I am pro-life and I think it is unfair that a father has no say...the woman didn't get pregnant by herself- not enough men stand up and take responsibility for unplanned pregnancies so when one does I think they have a right to be heard.
The father should have some say in the matter. He should also have a fair amount of resposibility for the child.
it is important to distinguish fairness from justice.
it is indeed unfair--they are not given equal weight in their decision making ability.
the far more important question is that of justice. during pregnancy, they are not equally committed to the baby. a pregnant woman is the one who bears the burden entirely. a man is not necessary at all, and more importantly, if the woman were not alive, the child would die.
after birth, the parents have equal responsibility. a woman can die in childbirth without killing the child. a man can take care of a child after it is born independently.
so during pregnancy, the woman (having sole impact over the child) is given all the relevant rights.
after the birth, when they have responsibility over the child's life, they're equally responsible.
should a woman have rights to decide whether a man has a vasectomy?
Most fathers in my experience would even go as far as to pay for the abortion.
Yes, it is Un-fair. There is not much a man can do, to protect the baby he made. Some men, don't even know their partner has become pregnant and the women just goes off and aborts the fetus. Men need to be selective and use protection, when having sex. When a man gets some women pregnant, they will live in hell for the rest of their lives. So a message to all men. Be selective and plan your parenthood as to whom your gonna make a child with.
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